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Twice as many registered voters favor charter schools as oppose them. The more people learn about charter schools, the more they like them.

Source: State of the Charter School Movement 2005

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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION
1997 CHARTER SCHOOLS NATIONAL CONFERENCE

SPECIAL EDUCATION
WORKSHOP SESSION


Renaissance Mayflower Hotel
Washington, D.C.
November 3, 1997

Panel Members:

Moderator
Tom Hehir, Director
Office of Special Education Programs

Presenters:
Francisco Lopez, Attorney
Office of General Counsel

Jeanette Lim, Director
Program Legal Group
Office for Civil Rights

Anne Hoogstraten, Senior Staff Attorney
Program/Legal Group
Office for Civil Rights

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Table of Contents:

  • Introduction
  • Overview - Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act & Title II of the Americans with Disabilities Act
  • Overview - Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA)
  • Overview - IDEA Amendments of 1997
  • Question #1 - Can a school district stop providing services to a special education youngster when he or she leaves the district to go to a charter school?
  • Question #2 - When a child who has been labeled as a special education student transfers from one school district to another, does the student have to be placed within 30 days?
  • Question #3 - When a child's parents decide they want to send their child to his charter school, and the school is a freestanding LEA, does the school have an obligation to provide a continuation of services?
  • Question #4 - When you have a State, that on a routine basis, fails to comply with federal regulations, what can your office do to force them to come into compliance?
  • Question #5 - Specifically, as a charter school, are we required to use the assessment provided by the district, or may we use independent assessments?
  • Question #6 - How far do parents rights go in specifying what kind of intervention they can have for their child, such as ìI want this particular program delivered?
  • Question #7 - If other schools in the district offer different kinds of services than our school, and a parent chooses to send their student to our school, do we have to change our program to accommodate them?
  • Question #8 - Oftentimes, parents are pulling their kids out of special education to bring them to us. In that circumstance, when a kid comes to us, can the parent waive the IEP at that point?
  • Question #9 - Can the child still have a disability but not require special education?
  • Question #10 - If a student is over 18 and they choose to stop coming to school, at what point can we just withdraw them?
  • Question #11 - Are other charter schools expressing the concern that local education districts are really trying to get rid of their special education kids?
  • Question #12 - Is a charter school allowed to tell a prospective special education student that we really think that the more appropriate program is back with the child's school?
  • Question #13 - What role does your office play in making sure that charter schools are compensated for providing special services?

Contents

The passage of IDEA `97 this past June clarified obligations to provide free appropriate educational services for students with disabilities attending public charter schools and the availability of IDEA funds for these students in charter schools. The relevant provisions of IDEA `97 were discussed during this workshop, and participants explored ways that public charter schools could ensure that their disabled students receive educational programs that are in full compliance with IDEA and other Federal disability laws. The following are edited excerpts from the workshop, with additional clarifications from the Office of Special Education Programs and the Office for Civil Rights. This is not intended to be a verbatim transcription.


P R O C E E D I N G S

INTRODUCTION

DR. HEHIR: My name is Tom Hehir. I am the director of the Office of Special Education Programs for the Department of Education here in Washington.

I am joined today by Jeanette Lim from the Office for Civil Rights in the Department of Education.

We are going to be speaking today and, hopefully, answering questions. If this session is anything like the last session, there will be one or two questions about the applicability of federal laws regarding the education of children with disabilities to charter schools. Specifically, we will cover Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act, the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) and, most relevant, the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA), the federal special education law.

Jeanette is going to begin by giving us an overview of the fundamental civil rights protections that children with disabilities have under Section 504 and the Americans with Disabilities Act.


Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act & Title II of the Americans with Disabilities Act

MS. LIM: As Tom said, I am from the Office for Civil Rights. Norma Cantu is the Assistant Secretary.

As Tom indicated, there are three federal statutes and actually two constitutional provisions that define the legal obligations of States, school districts and public schools, including public charter schools, with regard to students with disabilities.

The IDEA, "Individuals with Disabilities Education Act," will be discussed by Tom after I am through discussing Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973. Regulations interpreting Section 504 are at 34 Code of Federal Regulations, Part 104, in case you want to have resource documents. I will also be discussing Title II of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), which also has interpretive regulations available at 28 Code of Federal Regulations, Part 35.

The two constitutional provisions that I referred to are the equal protection guarantees of the Fifth and the Fourteenth Amendments.

Let me return to Section 504 and Title II of the ADA. Section 504 applies to any recipient of federal financial assistance. To the degree charter schools receive federal financial assistance, and to the degree that any program or activity benefits from that federal aid, Section 504 requirements apply.

Title II applies to all services, programs and activities provided or made available by public entities. "Public entities" in those regulations that I cited is broadly defined. Taken together Section 504 and Title II will cover all public charter schools, because they are either a federal fund recipient or a public entity. I will collapse the brief discussion of the coverage and the requirements of these two laws.

The provisions of Section 504 and Title II are actually more extensive than the IDEA in the types of disabilities that they cover and the class of individuals that they protect. IDEA eligibility depends on whether a student's disabilities require special education, defined as "specially designed instruction." These students are also protected by Section 504 and Title II. But some students with disabilities, such as some students with orthopedic disabilities, would be covered by Section 504 and Title II but not necessarily by IDEA. They may be ineligible for special education and related services under the IDEA, but would still be protected under Section 504 and Title II.

With regard to a free and appropriate public education (FAPE), Section 504 regulations require the provision of FAPE -- that is, regular or special education and related aids and services -- in the least restrictive environment. Some students may be covered because they need related aids and services but do not need special education. Though not required by Section 504, one way of meeting the 504 requirements for FAPE is through the individualized education plan (IEP) developed in accordance with IDEA. Tom will speak much more extensively about those requirements. Where a child with a disability is ineligible for services under the IDEA, the FAPE requirements of Section 504 and Title II then come into play.

That is general background. I would like to turn it over now to Tom who can give you an overview of the IDEA.


Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA)

DR. HEHIR: Thank you, Jeanette.

I am going to talk today about how IDEA applies to charter schools. I think an important point to make about IDEA is that IDEA came after Section 504 and certain court cases-- that is, after the establishment of the fundamental civil rights for children with disabilities to go to school, which 504 and these constitutional cases established. Prior to the existence of 504, school districts discriminated against disabled children by excluding them from public education.

It was a common practice. School districts did, in pretty significant numbers, bar children with disabilities from education. Estimates are that between 750,000 to one million children with disabilities were barred from education prior to the passage of 504. IDEA came after 504, as a continuation of the federal effort to help States educate these children in public schools.

One of the things I want folks to realize is that IDEA, from a government perspective, is referred to as a "State grant program".

States do not have to participate in IDEA; this is a voluntary program for States. By participating in IDEA, which every State and the District of Columbia has chosen to do, States seek funding from the federal government, and with that funding come obligations in terms of special education for children with disabilities. Currently, the federal government funds about 10 percent of the total cost of educating children with disabilities; the rest is borne by States and local governments.

All States participate in IDEA, so every charter school as part of the State's educational system, will have obligations under IDEA. The reason that most States participate is that, even if IDEA did not exist, the fundamental civil rights protections that exist under Section 504 would still apply. Essentially, because of Section 504, States would still have to do much of what they are required to do under IDEA.

From a legal perspective, the federal government puts ultimate responsibility for the implementation of IDEA on State departments of education. Although our monitors visit local educational agencies (LEAs) and individual schools, they do so in order to monitor how States meet their responsibilities for implementing IDEA. That is an important distinction for you all to understand, because States are whom we rely on to set up a system to implement this program.

Generally, as a charter school, you are all either public schools within school systems, or in some States, freestanding LEAs. States have the responsibility for establishing policies and procedures as to how they are going to implement IDEA within each of those scenarios. You need to be included in those implementation plans.

The way in which IDEA plays out from State to State is different in some respects due to the way in which States organize their service delivery system, and that is okay. That is allowed under the federal statute as long as the individual rights of kids are adhered to. Of course, the way in which States have chosen to implement charter schools is also different from State to State.

What is important for you to understand is the interaction between how the State has implemented IDEA and how they have implemented charter school laws. That is really very important for you to understand at your State level.

In general, charter schools are either organized as freestanding LEAs within States, they are part of LEAs within States, or they are given the option to choose one or the other. I know this is a gross simplification. Again, it is also important to look at State law to understand what your obligations are as well as the opportunities you have in serving children with disabilities.

One of the things that I think is extremely exciting about the charter school movement is that you have the potential, and indeed many of you are actualizing this potential, of offering an alternative for children in the American education system.

Often, people increasingly look to you to provide alternatives for kids who have not been served well in the existing education system. As charter schools, you are likely to have parents of kids with disabilities looking very closely at you as a potential option for their children.

There are too many children with disabilities in this country that have not received what they should from the education system. That does not mean that IDEA has not been a good law. We have made major strides in this country in the past 22 years in improving education for children with disabilities. We have increased employment for younger people with disabilities, helped them leave our schools with much higher rates of participation in post-secondary education, and we have virtually eliminated institutionalization of students with mental retardation in this country­­ all since IDEA has been passed.

You, as folks involved in charter schools, I think, have a tremendous opportunity, particularly as it involves children with disabilities, to be showing a better way. Many of you are doing that all the time.

However, I have gone around the country and I have met many parents of kids with disabilities who praise what has happened for their children in charter schools. They say that this has been a lifeline for their children who have not performed well in more traditional schools. Again, I think you have a tremendous opportunity for children with disabilities.

Let me talk about a couple of things that I think are important for you to know and then open up for questions, because last time we had more than we could possibly answer.


IDEA Amendments of 1997

DR. HEHIR: One of the things you need to know about, is that IDEA had significant amendments to it in 1997 which specifically addressed charter school issues. The president signed the reauthorization of IDEA on June 4 and there were specific amendments that had to do with charter schools. They reflect an affirmation that charter schools are responsible, like other public schools are responsible, for implementing the IDEA.

There is a very clear statement in the Committee Report language. From my perspective, that is not a change, we would always have interpreted law that way. However, this statement makes it clearer.

The IDEA amendments allow for federal funding to flow to charter schools in ways that they have perhaps not previously flowed. Specifically, if a charter school is a freestanding LEA, they must be treated in the same way as other freestanding LEAs in the State in terms of being able to apply for federal funds, which recently amounted to over $600 per student. Again, charter schools are eligible to apply for and receive these funds if they are freestanding LEAs. They can also apply to the State directly, unless the State charter school laws explicitly require that they join another LEA in their application.

The other change which may also have a fiscal impact, is that charter schools that are part of a local school district, or LEA, have to be treated the same way that other schools in the district are treated, as far as federal funds and special education services are concerned. I think that there is recognition, certainly among the administration and among Congress, of charter schools' tremendous potential for our American education system, and that this potential extends to kids with disabilities as well.

As a legal matter, generally, there are differences in how you would be treated under IDEA if you are a freestanding LEA or if you are a part of a school district. In general, if you are a freestanding LEA, you probably have greater legal obligations than you would if you were part of a local school district.

Essentially, the way that you need to conceptualize yourself if you are a freestanding LEA, is that you are like a small town in your State.

Many States have small LEAs, but not all States do. Some of the States around here only have county systems, but many States have small LEAs. Essentially, you would have the same obligations as other small LEAs if your charter school is a freestanding LEA. Many people look at that and ask how a charter school can do all of these things.

Well, to some extent, the good news is that States have had to deal with small LEAs ever since the law was passed. Many States have regional programs that help small LEAs meet special education needs. If they have those in your State, and you are a freestanding LEA, you should be connected to that system.

Some States have particular funding mechanisms that are applied to small LEAs when they have a high cost kid. Again, you should be connected to those funding systems as you develop your charter schools.

A PARTICIPANT: Would you mind repeating what you just said, connecting with the other networks?

DR. HEHIR: Again, I think one of the important things, and this is advice, is that as a freestanding LEA, one of the things that is likely to happen is that you are going to have some demands made on you to implement IDEA that may be difficult for you to meet.

I think it is extremely important that you are connected to the same system that exists in the State that would apply to small entities in that State in terms of supporting your ability to serve kids who come to your door. Some States have made those arrangements; others, I am not sure, based on some of the questions that I heard this morning.

The important thing is that if you are a freestanding LEA, you are likely to have significant obligations under the Act. They are analogous, in general, to the obligations that, in a very general sense, a small town school system would have.

Again, from our perspective, going back to the distinction I made in the beginning, if we require States to implement the Act through its public education programs, that would include you. If you are providers of educational services in the State, which you certainly are as a LEA, then the State has to have systems for you to successfully implement the Act. You need to be part of that broad system, I believe, in order to meet your obligations.

If you are part of an LEA, generally, you should think of yourself as being treated in the same way as another school in that LEA is treated, as far as IDEA is concerned. That has to do with some basic fundamentals.

As "basic fundamentals," what we require under IDEA is that local education agencies have child find efforts. You have to identify eligible children with disabilities. You have to assess them to determine whether or not they have disabilities and whether they need special education and related services. You need to develop and implement an Individualized Education Program (IEP) for each of those children found eligible.

Those children need to be educated in what is referred to under the law as the least restrictive environment, in general, in an integrated fashion. Their parents have due process protections in relationship to the IEP and the educational services that their children receive. For example, they may request an administrative hearing if they disagree with the proposed placement.

I think most people are familiar with those fundamentals. As a practical matter, as a charter school, you should have worked out, if you have not already, what your participation in the child find system is. Who assesses whether children have disabilities and what kind of team is available to you? I think some folks are still working through some of those issues.

As a general rule, I think you should develop your program assuming that you are going to have kids with disabilities in it, because kids have a right to access your programs. The great majority of kids with disabilities have what are called high incidence disabilities: learning disabilities, emotional disturbance and mild mental retardation. There will also likely be kids who have more unusual needs or low­incidence disabilities. Sometimes these are more intense needs and these parents are also going to want their kids to go to your schools. Some of you may have organized yourselves to serve some of those populations of kids. I understand there are some charter schools that have focused on the needs of deaf children, a low-incidence disability. Conversely, I know that there are some charter schools that have focused on the needs of kids with learning disabilities.

As a general rule, you need to have the capability of evaluating children, developing IEPs and providing the services that are likely to be required in your school. You also need to have a mechanism for dealing with the more complex needs. If you are part of a school system, an overall school system, you need to have worked out with the central office, or the special education office, exactly how you would address those issues.

If you are a freestanding LEA, you need to negotiate with the State department of education how you can address those needs. This will generally be a similar way to how State departments handle small LEAs, because almost every State department has policies and procedures on how they handle small LEAs, both from a fiscal perspective, as well as for serving particularly low­incidence disabled students. You need to be part of that, I believe, if you are going to be able to do what you need to do to run the school.

Those are some of the basics that I think are important for people who run charter schools to know about in terms of the law. There are lots of other things, but if this session is anything like the last session, the questions are going to bring up every possible issue that you all have in terms of serving kids with disabilities. I do not want to lecture on any longer; I want to try to answer your questions.

QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS

Question #1

A PARTICIPANT: The school district has stated that any youngster that is now identified as a special education youngster who transfers to a charter school will be dropped as a special education youngster and will not receive district services until the youngster has been reevaluated, whenever that takes place. Can a school district stop providing services to a special education youngster when he or she leaves the district to go to a charter school?

DR. HEHIR: If the charter school is part of the school district, it is illegal. It is patently illegal. A public entity, a local school district, cannot unilaterally drop children from eligibility under IDEA because kids with disabilities in public schools are entitled to certain due process protections. The way in which we change eligibility under IDEA is through a well-defined process set out in federal statute; you must reevaluate the child, reviewing the data and the IEP, and give the other protections of due process.

A PARTICIPANT: Why is it illegal, just for my information?

Essentially, because, prior to the existence of IDEA, children with disabilities were either not served by education systems at all, or they were in the education system and did not have their needs that arose out of their disabilities addressed.

A PARTICIPANT: So it is by federal statute?

DR. HEHIR: It is by federal statute. Jeanette, do you want to say anything more?

MS. LIM: Yes. I was just going to say that in addition to being based upon the concepts of equal education opportunity, it is specific, tailored, individualized treatment in order for that disabled student, who is qualified by virtue of age and residency, to have a free appropriate public education. That is fundamental; it is an entitlement.

A PARTICIPANT: But special education must be continued? It cannot just be dropped by the school district?

DR. HEHIR: It cannot.

MS. LIM: It cannot be dropped.

DR. HEHIR: What an IEP is supposed to be doing is addressing the assessed needs of a disabled child; what that child needs, based on their disability, to receive an education.

Certainly all disabled kids who are served under IDEA need something more or something different or they would not be served under IDEA. Simply saying to a deaf person, we are not going to discriminate against you, but we also are not going to provide you with an interpreter if that is what you need to be educated, is also discriminatory. Again, it is fundamental civil rights.

Question #2

A PARTICIPANT: When a child who has been labeled as a special education student transfers from one school district to another, does the student have to be placed within 30 days?

DR. HEHIR: There may be a State law. What is required under the federal statute is that if a child moves from one district in a State to another, their IEP has to be implemented. That IEP can be reviewed, and the IEP team may recommend changes that are consistent with the goals and objectives of the curriculum of the charter school that they are in, but that IEP is a legally binding document and it must address the educational needs of the student. For example, where a child with an IEP is enrolled in a charter school with an emphasis on technology, and the IEP team believes that to meet the child's educational needs, the IEP should address computer skills, then the team must review and revise the IEP accordingly.

Question #3

THE PARTICIPANT: When a child's parents decide they want to send their child to his charter school, and the school is a freestanding LEA, does the school have an obligation to provide a continuation of services?

DR. HEHIR: Where the charter school is a freestanding LEA, that child continues to be entitled to special education, but you must look to State law, policies, and procedures, as to how the charter school must serve that student. Some States establish educational service agencies that are designed to cover several school districts. In States where this is the case, you may want these service agencies to cover charter schools as well. In other States, the responsibility to provide educational services to a student with a disability enrolled in a charter school that is a freestanding LEA, may fall squarely on the charter school. Again, we look to the State as having the ultimate responsibility for ensuring that there is a system in place for serving children with disabilities who are enrolled in charter schools.

The reason we have these protections is because, prior to federal law, school districts did not, in general, provide for the needs of these kids. One of the reasons that school districts did not is because there is cost involved, but excluding kids on the basis of a disability is now illegal in this country.

What we have said in the federal statute backed up by the Constitution, the Fifth and the Fourteenth Amendments, is that children with disabilities are entitled to a free, appropriate public education. We say that such education must address the needs that arise out of their disabilities.

The States have some degree of flexibility in determining eligibility under IDEA, but there is a baseline you cannot go below. In addition, all kids who have an identified disability are covered under Section 504, even if they do not need special education. That is a basic civil rights protection.

Another question?

Question #4

A PARTICIPANT: When you have a State, that on a routine basis, fails to comply with federal regulations, what can your office do to force them to come into compliance?

DR. HEHIR: Boy, that is a great question. I get asked that by parents all the time.

We try to work with States to move them into higher levels of compliance. Most States are consistently moving towards higher levels of compliance, but that is not always the case.

One of the vehicles we have available to us is withholding funds. Under IDEA, the Department of Education can withhold IDEA funds. We have withheld or considered withholding, in several instances in the past. If there are systemic violations of civil rights under Section 504, the Department can seek to withhold all federal funds.

I used to work in Chicago public schools where I was the Associate Superintendent. Prior to my coming to Chicago, OCR would have withdrawn all $100 million that Chicago public schools would potentially get in federal funds if Chicago had not come into compliance with Section 504.

We have an additional enforcement tool. We can refer noncompliance with IDEA to the Department of Justice, which IDEA `97 makes clear. Again, one of the important points that you need to know about IDEA, which is different from 504, is that we employ sanctions to States not directly to local school districts.

Under the Office for Civil Rights' authority, in cases where there has been disability, gender, and/or racial discrimination at the school district level, the sanctions can be applied to a local school district. That was the case in Chicago; that was a 504 issue.

MR. LOPEZ: Before you move on, I just want to say that we also have other enforcement options. Withholding can be in whole or in part. We can try to get "cease and desist orders." There is a mechanism for getting a compliance agreement, where States continue to receive funds but have a period of time, up to three years, for voluntary compliance with the requirements. We have a whole bunch of enforcement options.

Question #5

A PARTICIPANT: Specifically, as a charter school, are we required to use the assessment provided by the district, or may we use independent assessments? In other words, are we required to go through the entire district assessment?

DR. HEHIR: Again, this is complex in terms of "are you required." Perhaps "what options do you have" may be a better way of looking at this.

THE PARTICIPANT: Okay.

DR. HEHIR: As a general rule, you have to consider the assessment that you already have if it is current.

Can you reevaluate the child? Yes. Under the law, you would have to get the parent's permission to do that. In terms of "who are the assessors" and "what types of assessments go on," if it is an independent evaluation, then that is something you can agree to or that the parent can seek under IDEA.

I would strongly suggest -- this is technical assistance, this is not the official Department position -- I would strongly suggest that you have your own assessment capability in your building. I would say that to other public schools as well. I think that it is important to have assessment teams that are at least assigned to your building, know your kids, know your school. I think that is when the process works the best, when that occurs.

If you are a freestanding LEA, it is more likely that you would have to develop that capacity itself, and that may be good. If you are a part of an LEA, you would have to negotiate with your LEA how all that works.

As a general rule, I think it is better to try to have assessment teams associated with a building or a group of buildings, and I would say that to public schools as well as charter schools.

Question #6

A PARTICIPANT: How far do parents' rights go in specifying what kind of intervention they can have for their child, such as "I want this particular program delivered?"

DR. HEHIR: Parents are part of the IEP and placement teams; they are not unilateral dictators of how their child receives services. They are a part of the IEP and placement teams. However, they have, appropriately in my view, more real power because a parent may say, "well, I don't like this, so I'm going to go to request a due process hearing." Now, under the new IDEA, they can also go to voluntary mediation from the State department of education as an alternative to a hearing. But it is important to note that parents are equal members of the teams.

THE PARTICIPANT: They have recourse if they are not satisfied?

DR. HEHIR: They have recourse. That is correct, they have recourse.

THE PARTICIPANT: Because sometimes parents come to a nontraditional program and they want that and more traditional things too.

DR. HEHIR: Again, the determining factor should be the assessment of the child and the IEP. I mean, there is not one model that serves all kids with disabilities. I have not seen it yet, and I think it is unlikely to be developed ever. Kids have individual needs and there is a process for making those decisions. I mean, that parent may be right and may have a right to those services.

Again, under IDEA, the driving force for the decision-making process for all kids, whether they are in charter schools or they are in traditional public schools, is the assessment and the IEP of the child.

Question #7

THE PARTICIPANT: If other schools in the district offer different kinds of services than our school, and a parent chooses to send their student to our school, do we have to change our program to accommodate them?

DR. HEHIR: You might. It is difficult to address this in the abstract, but let me explain some of the underlying principles. Kids with disabilities sometimes need things done differently, not the standard way. That applies in any education setting. Indeed, you may have to change your program. Again, there are limits to what may you be required to do, but you know, kids have different needs.

THE PARTICIPANT: I guess I don't mean change our school program but change the way we provide special education, you know, if we are staffing a certain way and if what they want requires a whole new configuration.

MR. LOPEZ: You have to make an individual determination about how to appropriately serve the child's needs.

DR. HEHIR: Yes.

THE PARTICIPANT: And, if we feel like we are meeting the needs?

MR. LOPEZ: Then that is your decision, as long as the parent has been a participant in that team, but it is not going to insulate you from the possibility of a parent challenging that determination. However, as long as you have involved the parent in the process, and you have used your professional judgment, I think that is what the law generally requires.

A PARTICIPANT: Can a parent waive, elect to waive, an IEP or do they have to go through the due process hearing? I mean, can they decide no, I don't want to participate in this and the school can do what they want?

DR. HEHIR: Again, as a general rule, parents do not have a right to waive their children's right to an appropriate public education, as far as IDEA is concerned. Now, if a school district and parents agree, after a reevaluation, that the child does not need special education any more, that is different, and the child would no longer be eligible under IDEA.

There are instances where there could be a conflict between what a parent and the school district believe a child needs. Again, there is a process. The IEP process is supposed to address those things. If the conflict continues, parents also have a right to get an impartial determination through an administrative hearing or they can go to mediation.

Yes, sir?

Question #8

A PARTICIPANT: As kind of a follow-up to that -- the school that I am at -- quite often you get students who come to us with IEPs where the IEP calls for individualized attention, smaller classrooms and individualized assignments and those are all part of our charter. Oftentimes, parents are pulling their kids out of special education to bring them to us. In that circumstance, when a kid comes to us, can the parent waive the IEP at that point?

DR. HEHIR: As a general rule, what you should be doing in that situation is reviewing the IEP to determine its appropriateness in meeting the needs of the student and revising it consistent with the provisions of IDEA. In addition, if in reviewing the IEP, you suspect that the child really does not have a disability or does not need specialized instruction, then you should reevaluate that child and, if appropriate, consider declassifying her from special education.

There may be kids who were not well-served by their former school district and have very inappropriate IEPs, and that may be why the parents are coming to your door, because they want something different for their kids. In an instance like that, the child may still have a disability and need specialized instruction, but they need to have a different IEP, a better IEP, one that more accurately reflects their needs. You would review and revise that IEP and develop a new IEP that better fits the child. If the team suspects that this child does not have a disability or does not need special education, then, under the law, the team would propose to reevaluate that child and, if appropriate, consider declassifying him.

Question #9

A PARTICIPANT: Can the child still have a disability but not require special education?

DR. HEHIR: Yes. Again, this happens with many kids with disabilities, particularly if they have had a good program, whether it is in a public school or a charter school. They may not need special education any more, but they may still have a disability under Section 504 because they need related aids and services. Those children are still protected under Section 504 and should have 504 plans.

One of the people in the previous session made a great comment. We have kids who are doing so well. They are still disabled, but they do not need special education any more. Some may need extended time on tests, which they may be entitled to if they have a disability like dyslexia, for instance. Those are the kids that may still be covered by Section 504, and you should consider the need for 504 plans to meet their educational needs and protect their interests as disabled kids.

Yes, ma'am?

Question #10

A PARTICIPANT: If a student is over 18 and they choose to stop coming to school, at what point can we just withdraw them? In other words, contact with them has ceased, they do not respond to phone calls, they do not respond to letters.

DR. HEHIR: There are two things involved. One has to do with the age of eligibility, which varies from State to State. You also need to know what your age of majority situation is in your State and whether parental rights under the IDEA transfer at the age of majority. Of course, the parent of an eligible individual must still get notice of what is happening regarding that individual's education.

You also need to know if you have eligible students who, although above the age of majority, are unlikely to be able to make their own decisions. They may need guardianships even as adults. Some adults with disabilities continue to have guardianship from parents or other significant adults in order to make major life decisions. If that is the case, you need to know it because the IDEA has new provisions that cover such situations.

State law will govern most of those decisions. In some States, the age of majority is age 18, and State law transfers parental rights at that point, but kids with disabilities may continue to be eligible for services until their 22nd birthday. In those States, if the student is 18 and does not need guardianship, then she is an emancipated adult capable of making informed decisions about her education. As long as the parents receive notice, the school need only document that they made available a free appropriate public education, but that the individual has not responded.

Question #11

THE PARTICIPANT: I have one other question, and it is more of a concern. We are a standalone district. In other words, we are not part of the other district. The bulk of our students who are under the age of 18 who come to us are being referred from their local schools, because they believe that we could most probably be a better place for them. They are usually the very high discipline incident students. My question is-- are other charter schools expressing the concern that local education districts are really trying to get rid of their special education kids?

DR. HEHIR: Well, the question is what is meant by "get rid of." You could look at this in two ways. One, you could look at this as easy marketing for students to attend your school. I mean that very sincerely. One of the people here in the last session was talking about the fact that she has a charter school for the kids who have been completely rejected by the system that they were in. These kids have had a lot of discipline problems, and they have set up their charter school for that purpose.

This is exactly what we would like to see happening with charter schools, showing a better way.

You asked have we heard this. Yes, we have heard this-- school districts refer students to charter schools. The question is, again, are they referring children directly to you to avoid serving them or are they recommending that parents should consider your charter school as an appropriate placement option?

Question #12

A PARTICIPANT: Is a charter school allowed to tell a prospective special education student that we really think that the more appropriate program is back with the child's school?

DR. HEHIR: Oh absolutely. There should never be an assumption that a charter school is appropriate for every single type of child. We do not make that assumption with other public schools. In general, what we find is that school systems have to offer a continuum of services to children with disabilities, that one size does not fit all. However, charter schools that are freestanding LEAs will need to determine what is an appropriate placement for the child and make arrangements to ensure that the child has available a free appropriate public education.

The point I tried to make initially, and this is my recommendation to folks who are freestanding LEAs, is that you should be treated in a very similar manner that other small LEAs are treated in your State. If there is a specific regional or State program that is more appropriate for a certain kid that is part of your program, that is where it would be logical for you to refer that child based on an appropriate evaluation and an IEP.

Go ahead, Anne.

MS. HOOGSTRATEN: I just wanted to jump in from my own perspective. I am a staff attorney at OCR. I think there are a lot of unanswered questions in this whole area.

The big underlying question that keeps coming up that I hear is, when can I, as a charter school, not accept a student with a disability? When is my school the inappropriate placement? I do not think we have really answered that question fully yet. I mean, I think the Department is working towards it, but I do not think we have arrived at the answer.

THE PARTICIPANT: Can I give you a scenario?

MS. HOOGSTRATEN: Please.

THE PARTICIPANT: A parent has arrived. This is a parent of a child that has been with us right from the very beginning, three years, and the issue is really coming to a head. We have searched for an approach, shifted the IEP, done everything we can to evaluate and try to implement new steps to improve the performance of this child-- for naught.

Now we are at this meeting and the special education director is there, I am there and the teacher is there and she turns to the mother and says, have you considered the local public school, perhaps as an alternative since we are not able to meet this boy's needs? There was this deadly silence. Nobody followed up.

Right after the meeting, the special education director came in said, we can never ever say such a thing again at a meeting like that, because we are not in compliance. I thought it was an absolutely fair question.

DR. HEHIR: Well, he or she has a point if your intent was to avoid your responsibility for serving the student. What you need to be doing in a situation like that is you need to be evaluating that child, developing an IEP and recommending an appropriate placement for that child. That placement could be in a specific program run by the school district of residence. You would have to look to State law or policy, or perhaps work out an agreement with that agency, but certainly where the placement team determines that the child needs a more intensive setting than can be offered in the charter school, other options must be available.

An amorphous referral to the local school district is not consistent with the law. In terms of decision-making, the placement decision-making process for children with disabilities is well specified in the law in relationship to evaluations and IEP development. The IEP team's role is to develop an appropriate IEP for that child. Then there needs to be a placement team meeting, which can be the same meeting, to determine what the appropriate placement is for that child. This comes after the IEP is completed.

If you have not worked out how you handle that and you are a freestanding LEA, I would say contact your State department of education, you have a right to have these kinds of things worked out, because the State is ultimately responsible for implementing the Act.

We have been wrestling with these issues for quite a while. Again, we view you all as a great opportunity for kids. We want to make sure that kids with disabilities are part of that opportunity, but that does not in any way take away the legal complexities that exist in this area. In fact, most of them exist for other public schools as well.

The good news is that States have had 22 years of experience in working these things out at the State level and how they handle these situations. We have had to review how they handle these situations, to make sure they are in compliance with federal law. My view is that you all need to be part of that, and it will differ from State to State.

Another change in IDEA 1997, which is charter friendly, is that charter schools have to be represented on the State Advisory Panel for Special Education.

The State Advisory Panel for Special Education is a very important group that oversees policy developments in special education at the State level. Every State must include a charter representative on their State advisory panels.

Question #13

A PARTICIPANT: What role does your office play in making sure that charter schools are compensated for providing special services? Very often we are experiencing being left holding the bag with high cost and no mechanism and no necessary supports for how to get a fair shake out of those limited existing dollars.

DR. HEHIR: I think that is a great question. As far as the federal flow of funds to charter schools, that has been addressed in the 1997 amendments. With respect to charter schools that are part of a school district, the LEA must serve children with disabilities attending those schools in the same manner that it serves children with disabilities in its other schools and must provide IDEA funds to those schools in the same manner that it provides those funds to its other schools. A State educational agency may not require a charter school that is a freestanding LEA to jointly establish its eligibility for federal funds unless it is explicitly permitted to do so under the State's charter school statute. However, federal funds are only a small piece of the money that ultimately would be needed by a freestanding LEA to appropriately educate some children with disabilities.

The overall issue of how charter schools get access to State resources is a State concern. Of course, we would hold a State accountable for implementing IDEA across the board.

One of the things I have found in a lot of the literature on charter schools is people arguing they can do it better for cheaper, which is great. We are always looking at ways to provide educational services in a cost-efficient manner, but, as a general rule, kids served under IDEA are more expensive to educate. Given that everybody here agrees and it is the law, that kids with disabilities have the right to go to charter schools, there needs to be built into the funding mechanism, a way for charter schools to do what they want to do in terms of educating children with disabilities.

That is fundamentally a State concern. If a State makes a political decision to allow for public charter schools, then there needs to be, just like there is for other public schools, a way to fund those schools that allows them to make it.

I do think there is a balance here between federal, State and local roles. Again, I think one of the things that Congress did, and I think very appropriately, is to recognize charter schools in the amendments to IDEA `97 and recognize that they need to have a vehicle to access the federal funds-- something that did not exist in the past.

If there are decisions being made, as there obviously are, at the State level to encourage development of charter schools, there needs to be a resource base that is able to support the ability of charter schools to function. Part of that resource base needs to factor in that you are going to have kids with disabilities who are going to want to attend your school, and most of those kids are going to have additional costs associated with them. I believe those issues need to be addressed up front, now, not later.

(Whereupon, at 4:55 p.m., the SESSION was adjourned.)

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