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competition doesn't have to denote winners and losers	6/9/04 10:19 AM
Author: Cindy Zautcke

Otho--Thanks for your remarks.

I know many people believe that talk of competition means winners and losers. However, competition is what allows for the action and reaction of parents and the education providers--if I can't leave or in some way express my needs with some kind of leverage, there is no need for the possible education providers to respond.

I'm happy to talk about partnering with my competitors, but I won't walk away from the notion that the most socially just way to provide high quality options for all families is to foster an environment where the education providers have to compete for those families.

Cindy Zautcke
Institute for the Transformation of Learning
Marquette University

Posted as a reply to: Partners by Otho Tucker

Discussion Thread:

Influencing Traditional Public Schools - Working With Districts
Submitted by Bob Montgomery on 6/9/04 5:27 AM
- Partners
  Submitted by Otho Tucker on 6/9/04 5:34 AM
  - End traditional districts
    Submitted by Doug Thomas on 6/9/04 7:42 AM
    - Districts can't change fast enough???
      Submitted by Joe Nathan on 6/9/04 10:21 AM
    - Charters are competition--and that's a good thing.
      Submitted by Gerry Vazquez on 6/9/04 6:12 PM
  - competition doesn't have to denote winners and losers
    Submitted by Cindy Zautcke on 6/9/04 10:19 AM
    - Parental Choice
      Submitted by Deborah McGriff on 6/9/04 10:47 AM
      - Choice for Parents
        Submitted by Otho Tucker on 6/9/04 11:01 AM
        
        Empowering Parents
        Submitted by Deborah McGriff on 6/9/04 11:27 AM
    - Competing and Partnering - Winners and Losers
      Submitted by Otho Tucker on 6/9/04 10:53 AM
    - Competition in Public Education
      Submitted by Roger W. Bourassa on 6/9/04 11:02 AM
- Positive Outcomes
  Submitted by Otho Tucker on 6/9/04 5:50 AM
  - Introduction of Charters Shown to Increase Achievement in Traditional Public Schools
    Submitted by Michelle Godard Terrell on 6/9/04 6:43 AM
- Reframing the Question
  Submitted by Deborah McGriff on 6/9/04 5:58 AM
  - Research-Based Education
    Submitted by Janice Showler on 6/9/04 6:42 AM
  - Give Up Control to Gain More Influence
    Submitted by Mark Cannon on 6/9/04 6:42 AM
  - Yes, reframe the question!
    Submitted by Doug Thomas on 6/9/04 7:30 AM
  - preventing entrenchment
    Submitted by Dorothy Wood on 6/9/04 8:11 AM
    - Entrenched Programs
      Submitted by Deborah McGriff on 6/9/04 8:34 AM
- Shared Goals and Objectives
  Submitted by Micheal Floyd on 6/9/04 6:16 AM
- Influencing Traditional Public Schools
  Submitted by Alice Heller on 6/9/04 6:23 AM
  - Replication of Successful Schools
    Submitted by Otho Tucker on 6/9/04 7:25 AM
    - Requesting Definitions
      Submitted by Patty Dump on 6/9/04 9:03 AM
      - "Successful"
        Submitted by Otho Tucker on 6/9/04 9:43 AM
        
        Inequity
        Submitted by Patty Dump on 6/9/04 11:10 AM
        
        What About Teacher Replication?
        Submitted by Bob Montgomery on 6/9/04 1:21 PM
        
        Tomorrow
        Submitted by Patty Dump on 6/9/04 5:11 PM
      - Defining Success
        Submitted by Deborah McGriff on 6/9/04 9:48 AM
        
        Total Afffirmation
        Submitted by Patty Dump on 6/9/04 9:58 AM
        
        Arrogance in Education?
        Submitted by Roger W. Bourassa on 6/9/04 10:43 AM
        
        Still in agreement
        Submitted by Patty Dump on 6/9/04 11:18 AM
      - Success of Mission
        Submitted by Roger W. Bourassa on 6/9/04 10:30 AM
        
        Whose mission?
        Submitted by Patty Dump on 6/9/04 11:50 AM
    - Collaborating for Improved Educational Outcomes
      Submitted by Lynn Kepford on 6/9/04 9:18 AM
    - Replication of Successful Schools - this makes me shudder!
      Submitted by Carole Mottaz on 6/9/04 1:53 PM
      - Replication of successful schools - a postscript
        Submitted by Carole Mottaz on 6/9/04 2:01 PM
        
        Never Replicate?
        Submitted by Deborah McGriff on 6/9/04 2:19 PM
  - Different Models
    Submitted by Stef Stahl on 6/9/04 11:10 AM
    - Educational Equity & Academic Achievement
      Submitted by Bob Montgomery on 6/9/04 12:33 PM
      - Educational Equity and Academic Achievement
        Submitted by Carole Mottaz on 6/9/04 1:47 PM
- Influence
  Submitted by Mike Clem on 6/9/04 7:20 AM
  - Opposite effect
    Submitted by Mike Fernandez on 6/9/04 3:09 PM
- Working with district schools
  Submitted by Heidi Mitchell on 6/9/04 8:29 AM
- Dealing with charter critics
  Submitted by Joe Nathan on 6/9/04 9:50 AM
  - Charter Joe Nathan's comment about charter schools having something to offer mainstream education.
    Submitted by Carole Mottaz on 6/9/04 1:37 PM
- Collaboration between districts and charter schools
  Submitted by Tracy Quarnstrom on 6/9/04 12:52 PM
- Charter School Influence
  Submitted by Carmen Rivera on 6/9/04 8:32 PM