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NCLB & Federal Policy: Measuring Improvement: AYP and Charters

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Value-added vs. AYP	6/8/04 6:38 AM
Author: Jim Peyser

You raise a very good point. As I suggest in the discussion thread on charter schools focused on at-risk students, AYP is often an imperfect substitute for a more precise measure value-added--based on individual student gains. This is especially true for the example you cite of a highly targeted, short-term charter program.

Posted as a reply to: Charter Schools and AYP by Anita Nelam

Discussion Thread:

Measuring Improvement: AYP and Charters
Submitted by Bob Montgomery on 6/8/04 5:35 AM
- Charters should embrace AYP
  Submitted by Jim Peyser on 6/8/04 5:41 AM
  - Charter Schools and AYP
    Submitted by Anita Nelam on 6/8/04 6:18 AM
    - Value-added vs. AYP
      Submitted by Jim Peyser on 6/8/04 6:38 AM
- AYP
  Submitted by Nelson Smith 2 on 6/8/04 6:16 AM
  - AYP and Charter Schools
    Submitted by Tom Foser on 6/8/04 6:35 AM
    - Charters and AYP
      Submitted by Nelson Smith 2 on 6/8/04 6:53 AM
  - AYP is a useful benchmark
    Submitted by Jim Peyser on 6/8/04 6:48 AM
- Response to Anita
  Submitted by Mike Clem on 6/8/04 7:50 AM
  - Back to Mike
    Submitted by Anita Nelam on 6/8/04 8:07 AM
    - To heck with NCLB - do the right thing!
      Submitted by Margaret Roush-Meier on 6/8/04 9:07 AM
      - Do The Right Thing!
        Submitted by Anita Nelam on 6/8/04 9:21 AM
      - Unfortunately, NCLB & states have changed the landscape!
        Submitted by Harold Ohnmeis on 6/8/04 9:50 AM
        
        Any good policy, mindlessly applied....
        Submitted by Nelson Smith 2 on 6/8/04 10:33 AM
        
        Agree on the data production
        Submitted by Hal Ohnmeis on 6/8/04 11:17 AM
        
        response to Harold
        Submitted by Margaret Roush-Meier on 6/8/04 10:46 AM
        
        Using NCLB to mold charter schools to district image
        Submitted by Hal Ohnmeis on 6/8/04 11:08 AM
      - Aren't we the R&D of public ed?
        Submitted by Lynanne Fowle on 6/8/04 11:48 AM
        
        Yes, but...
        Submitted by Nelson Smith 2 on 6/8/04 12:17 PM
        
        R &D Model
        Submitted by Margaret Roush-Meier on 6/8/04 12:30 PM
        
        Accountability Models
        Submitted by Todd Ziebarth on 6/8/04 12:46 PM
    - "...simply turn down the money.."
      Submitted by Waldo Jones on 6/9/04 10:35 AM
  - Aw, c'mon
    Submitted by Nelson Smith 2 on 6/8/04 10:28 AM
- Expanding AYP
  Submitted by Todd Ziebarth on 6/8/04 8:00 AM